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Why are we comparing clean diesel vehicles to hybrid vehicles when we should be talking about clean diesel hybrid vehicles, such as this Ford Reflex Diesel hybrid car? If we converted all vehicles to clean diesel vehicles it would take at least a decade. Yes, our fleet would be 25 percent more fuel efficient that if it were gasoline, but our consumption in the next ten years will probably increase by 25 percent or more. So, nothing will have changed.

Clean Diesel Vehicles Versus Hybrid Vehicles: A Stupid Debate

Updated: April 8, 2012

Editor's Note -- This article was written back in early 2007. Since both diesel and hybrid cars have done little to reduce foreign oil dependence. It's obvious, both technologies are needed.

The Axis of Diesel states, "Mercedes, GM and even Honda, are betting on a new breed of green diesels. The goal? To leave hybrids in the dust."

First, let's be clear. There is no comparison between clean diesel vehicles and hybrid cars. PERIOD. It's no different than comparing apples to oranges. Yes, both are fruit, but the comparison really ends there.

Second, and the primary reason that there is no comparison between clean diesels and hybrids, hybrid vehicles can also use clean diesel technology. So, however efficient a clean diesel is, a clean diesel hybrid will always be 20 to 30 percent more efficient than just a clean diesel vehicle. 

Ultimately, hybrid technology is not dependent upon fuel - hybrids can utilize every fuel available - which is why Ford is working on the Reflex diesel hybrid and Peugeot on the C-Matisse diesel hybrid.

Yes, even European automakers are buying into hybrid technology.

Inevitably, as the EU continues to become more aggressive in fighting CO2 emissions, diesel hybrids might be the only option left for Europe.

Diesels compete with today's hybrids

Sure, it is true that in the short term, clean diesel cars can compete with gasoline hybrid cars in terms of fuel efficiency, but hybrid technology is only just emerging. 

Within 3 years not only does Toyota believe that it can cut the weight of hybrid powertrains in half, but the costs of hybrid technology might be cut in half as well. This means greater fuel efficiency at half the cost.

Consequently, in three years, a clean diesel hybrid could be sold for less than the current markup on today's gasoline powered hybrids. And, in three years, if gas prices are close to three dollars, a hybrid diesel will be a far better value than just a clean diesel vehicle.

Besides, imagine the entire American fleet of automobiles was to convert to clean diesel. That transition would take more than a decade, a decade in which energy consumption is expected to rise at least 20 percent and probably even more. As a result the fuel efficiency gains made by converting all automobiles in America into clean diesel would leave America right where it is today - terribly dependant upon foreign oil.

To fight America's energy addiction, clean diesel simply isn't enough, not by a long shot.

Fortunately, the gains that Toyota will make in the next few years are only the beginning of what hybrids can achieve. Just like computers, hybrid technology will continually achieve greater efficiency and cheaper costs. Additionally, hybrid technology is an excellent platform for the introduction of fuel cells into automobiles. As fuel cells are so expensive, even smaller fuel cells could be used at first to help bring costs down, and that's extremely important.

Even better, hybrid technology might demonstrate that fuel cells really aren't needed to end foreign oil dependency and could possibly even end oil dependency. 

GM's Volt plug-in hybrid, for example, could go 40 miles on electricity alone before needing any fuel. For most Americans, this is enough to get to work and back. Still, the Volt can use fuel to go 100's of miles beyond the average 40 mile commute - why not make that a choice of gasoline, flex-fuel, clean diesel or biodiesel.

And let's face it, a fuel cell vehicle costs almost $1 million today. On the other hand, a clean diesel plug-in hybrid that could achieve well over 100 mpg could cost less than $50,000 today. Also, such a clean diesel doesn't require the infrastructure costs of a brand new 'hydrogen highway'.

Thus, to frame a debate between clean diesels and hybrid vehicles is simply short-sighted and silly. Isn't it about time we strive for greatness and not profit-driven mediocrity? 

The technology needed to change the world exists RIGHT NOW. Sure the batteries for a plug-in hybrids probably need more research. So what? In the interim, clean diesel hybrids make sense, as do flex-fuel and bio-diesel hybrids. 

Thus, the real question is not whether America can end foreign oil dependency, but does America have the courage to end foreign oil dependency?'

--For an interesting discussion check out Hybrid cars versus diesel

posted by Dahcredyns at 8:08 PM 1 comments

 

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